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Queen and Slim (BONUS Episode)


In Episode 016 of the Naked Proverbs podcast, Rich and Nik Scott talk about the movie Queen and Slim.



Nik:

Welcome back to the Naked Proverbs podcast where we unclothe the truth about Black love family and marriage. My name is Nik Scott, one of your hosts. And as always, I am here with my husband,

Rich:

What's going on? It's your boy Rich.

Nik:

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Rich:

As always, we'd like to thank our listeners, our fan base is growing, and we appreciate you tuning in week after week to hear what we have to say about marriage love and family.

Nik:

Did y'all see Queen and Slim, Slim and Queen?

Rich:

It's called Queen and Slim.

Nik:

Oh, well did y'all see it? We saw it.

Rich:

And you know what? My boy from Get Out, has had a transition. The very first movie I saw him in I don't even know his name.

Nik:

Daniel something very hard to pronounce.

Rich:

Look it up. Look it up. I got the whole Google in front of me. Ain't that what you always say?

Nik:

Yeah, you do have the whole internet. It's like Daniel Kuluga, Kuleia,

Rich:

You just can't be making it up.

Nik:

Kaluuya, Kaluuya. I bet you that's right. It's Daniel

Rich:

Khlua?

Nik:

I didn't say Khlua. Kaluuya. It's very interesting spelling and I'm sure it's an interesting pronunciation and I'm sorry, Daniel, that I'm butchering your name. However, we have supported every major film that you have been in so far.

Rich:

Man, it's Daniel Kaluuya.

Nik:

I told you.

Rich:

I've only seen three movies Daniel's been. The first one was Get Out. And he was obsessed with this white woman, right?

Nik:

Yeah, he was.

Rich:

Then the next movie he was in Wakanda

Nik:

Forever.

Rich:

Yeah, that's a movie right there boy, that's the future. What I saw in that movie was he had a Black woman as his wife.

Nik:

Mm hmm.

Rich:

But he was still a traitor. And he still didn't really understand the power he had next to him. He wasn't listening to her. He wasn't down for her. He's been an idiot. Matter of fact, he tried to have his boys go up and fight her girls. That's just crazy.

Nik:

Yeah.

Rich:

But finally. Finally, my boy Daniel. has seen the light.

Nik:

He's seen the light.

Rich:

If you haven't seen the movie, I'm not gonna ruin it for you, but I am gonna say he finally held down a Black woman to the end from the beginning to the end, and I loved it. You know, the ending was what I expected. But I have not seen very many movies, where they allow Black men to just love Black women and allow Black women to love Black men. So, for me, I love that aspect of the movie where they just had this relationship that was, you know, built around some craziness, but it was growing and blossoming and who knows where it could have led if it was a real life story. But I like that I like Daniels, progression in life.

Nik:

There are a lot of things in the movie, and I don't think I'm going to be as polite as my husband and not spoil the movie. For those of you that haven't seen it,

Rich:

Don't ruin it.

Nik:

Listen, if you haven't seen the movie, just skip this part because there's some things that I really have to say about the movie, and it might be considered spoiler alerts. Now,

Rich:

Spoiler alert.

Nik:

Spoiler alert. Now you've been warned. So, if you want to can in you listening, and you do plan to see the movie, know that a lot of what I'm about to say might just spoil it for you. So, the first thing that comes to mind when I'm thinking about the movie, and I did enjoy the movie, I thought it was a great love story. It's not necessarily about what you think it's about. To me, it was a great love story. It was a great love story about two Black people who were down for each other, regardless of the circumstances that they happen to come to be together. They held each other down through thick and thin and unconditionally. And it was a great depiction of not just Black love, but to me what a marriage should look like.

Rich:

Yeah, I'm gonna need you to shoot people for me.

Nik:

First of all, she didn't shoot anybody.

Rich:

Oh, I need to shoot people for you.

Nik:

He shot...yeah, and

Rich:

You seen that in the preview so I ain’t ruin nothing.

Nik:

and the crazy thing is the character's Queen and Slim, they reminded me of us.

Rich:

Man, from the get-go, when they were sitting talking at like scene one, the first thing I said was, that was you and that was me. Like when we were young, I'm telling you, we were Queen and Slim.

Nik:

It's so funny. I mean, from the church boy to the...

Rich:

To the attitude, to trusting everybody, to not trust and nobody, to having these deep, dark secrets about your life, to feeling like you need to be responsible for your family and make sure they know everything is okay. I mean, it's, it was for real. Like looking in a mirror.

Nik:

It was. It was crazy. And I don't know how many other Black couples have that same story.

Rich:

Right.

Nik:

Because it's not a coincidence, right? Like, we're not the only two people that seen this movie and we're like, oh my gosh, that's us. Like literally that's us. So, I wonder how many Black couples actually are like that where, you know, the, the guy in the movie is actually the husband in the relationship and the woman in the movie is actually the female in the relationship. But there were some interesting things in the movie that somebody people might overlook, like the whole bond of military people. The uncle was crazy as hell. And even though he was crazy, it was because he had been in the war, whatever. But he was able to call on somebody who he hadn't seen or talked to, who lives many states away, to help out his family member and he trusted and knew that it was gonna happen no matter what.

Rich:

And that's real life.

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Rich:

Like someone that has served in the military, I can tell you now there are friendships that I haven't spoken to some of these people in 15 years, 20 years since we initially joined, but I have no doubt I could call them, any of them. I mean, I've reconnected with some people that were at my first duty station when I was 18, 19 years old. I am in my 40s. And we've reconnected from Facebook, and we've gotten on the phone like nothing happened. Like, we didn't miss a beat. And I know that people I've served with, I feel exactly like her uncle did. I could call any of them up and say hey, this is what I need. Doesn't matter what it is. And as long as it's legal. And a few of them it could be illegal.

Nik:

That was illegal what they did.

Rich:

I know some of my boys if it was illegal, they'd still have my back.

Nik:

Yeah, they were definitely operating through the bond of the military and serving together to what do we what do you call it with the fugitives? Like they were fugitives and they were a baiting and abiding whatever it is. I don't know.

Rich:

I don't know what you are trying to say.

Nik:

But they were helping out the criminals.

Rich:

They was committing crimes themselves.

Nik:

Yes, they were.

Rich:

Yep.

Nik:

Another thing that I thought was real interesting about the movie was just the way that they even came to be. Like she was bored basically and decided to go on this date. And he must have fell in love at first sight or something because he

Rich:

It can happen. I fell in love with you at first sight.

Nik:

That's what you say. But I don't know if I believe that.

Rich:

You don't have to believe it.

Nik:

Okay.

Rich:

I know it to be true.

Nik:

That's another topic. He must have fell in love at first sight because he was so protective of her. When she got shot at the very beginning. He was like, get off her leave her alone and ended up shooting the police officer to protect her.

Rich:

And I think for me that was probably one of the scenes that I liked the most. Because we very rarely see Black men protecting Black women. Even like I said, Wakanda there was a moment where they had Black men fight and Black women. Yeah. So, even in our you know, story of our past. Everybody that's our, that is the Black movie. If you don't know about Wakanda, you ain't really Black. But you might lose your Black card.

Nik:

How you taking people's Black cards away?

Rich:

Because. If you have not seen Wakanda You don't deserve to have a Black card.

Nik:

Oh, my goodness.

Rich:

But that's not the movie we're talking about. My point though, is that there are very few movies out there where you don't see Black men, beating a Black woman or doing something negative, or standing by watching her be abused. So, to me that was kind of that defining moment of who I'm really going like this movie, because they actually allow this Black man to defend his Black Queen, to the point that he killed a police officer. You know, and that's kind of, you know, in the previews, so I haven't spoiled anything. But that was deep to me. Because that is not shown very often. Even though in real world, in real life, it does exist, like Black men do stand up for our queens and protect them and speak up and try to make sure that they're okay. But society doesn't get to see that because it's always portrayed in everything as us being the abuser, or us just watching the abuse happen and not doing anything. So, I really appreciate it that that piece.

Nik:

And let's talk a little bit about the symbolism in the movie. Like in that scene, and for the majority of the movie, she was wearing all white. All white and we know why it is the color of purity, right? And then she gets shot in her leg. So, there's now a hole in her leg and she's bleeding all over the white cloth that she was wearing. And because there was that balance or that fine line between religion and almost not religion, whatever the opposite of religion is, I don't know.

Rich:

Not religion.

Nik:

Thank you. So, religion and not religion. That's symbolism of the all white with the blood-stained clothing. And the way that she even got injured. It was all very conflicting to me. It was like here's the good, this woman is pure in white and wearing this white, and then she's tarnished all of a sudden.

Rich:

Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm totally confused.

Nik:

Oh, well, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to confuse you.

Rich:

Symbolisms and the white. I mean, it was a white man in the movie.

Nik:

There were plenty of white men in the movie, there was actually a good white man in the movie. And they ended up putting him in the trunk of the car and leaving him there.

Rich:

There was also good the white man and his wife.

Nik:

See, were they good though, because at the end of the movie, I don't understand how the Black guy knew where to find them people? If the man gave him the address of a specific address to his friend, and they show up to the specific address to this friend and then show to

Rich:

They didn't show up to the specific address. If you recall, they were just sitting on a road.

Nik:

So, why didn't they ever make it to the address?

Rich:

See, that's part of that you just think it too deeply. It's just a movie. It's all it is. It's for entertainment.

Nik:

Well. Another part of the movie that I... that’s real I guess it's just real is that all Black folks ain't down for each other. And this movie made it clear that A) Black people stay in your place and B) the authorities and the powers that be is always going to be able to divide and conquer you.

Rich:

All it takes a little bit that green money.

Nik:

And it was a whole lot of green money

Rich:

About $500,000

Nik:

But even still

Rich:

That ain't a lot though

Nik:

It's not a lot

Rich:

That's chump change. I ain't gonna lie to you. Check my bank.

Nik:

It's not a lot. But the fact that this movie used this as a platform it's like oh yeah, we get everybody hyped up. We got the what they call them, police killers, the cop, cop killer. We got these cop killers, and then all everybody's height supporting them. And then at the very end is another Black person that ends up selling them out.

Rich:

I think that was just meant to be reality

Nik:

It is reality.

Rich:

It wasn't supposed to be like, you know, little Hollywood in there. That was just, that's reality. Black people sell Black people out quicker than anybody else I would imagine.

Nik:

I agree Black folks there in your place It was a good movie. Go see it if you want to see it. Sorry if we ruined it for you. But stay in your place. And love on your Black men and women's. Thank you so much for tuning in to this week's episode of the Naked Proverbs podcast. We want you to truly have a happy marriage. We want you to continue to thrive in your marriages and indulge in your spouses on a regular basis. Don't forget to follow the Naked Proverbs on whatever podcasting platform you listen to your podcasts on. And we will talk to y'all in the next one.

Rich:

Peace.

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